Comments on: The Scam Called Kid Recital Videos http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos wiping asses and taking names since 2006 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:55:00 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: foodad http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-828 foodad Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-828 The video was 2:52. I estimate that your daughter was on camera for about 62 seconds. That\'s $.4838 per second. The video was 2:52. I estimate that your daughter was on camera for about 62 seconds.

That\’s $.4838 per second.

]]> By: redhawk http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-830 redhawk Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-830 As with many other services, you have to be aware of the \"hidden costs\" involved when choosing a dance studio. My wife runs a dance studio, and while her monthly rates are only slightly less than those of her competitors, I\'m always amazed at how much the other studios gouge when it comes to costumes, recital tickets, and other fees. As for the recital video, we don\'t allow parents to videotape the night of the performance as the auditorium is very crowded and raised camcorders would block the view of others. However, we do allow parents to videotape the night of the dress rehearsal. It\'s a clean run-through, so the only difference in a dress rehearsal video is there are fewer folks applauding at the conclusion of each number. Parents can even position themselves in front of the stage during their child\'s performance to make their videos and take pictures. We do not allow flash photography at the performance as it makes the experience more difficult for students who are nervous about performing. We do allow it at the dress rehearsal since there are fewer nerves that evening and we do want parents to be able to take pictures. Recital tickets are $2, and each family receives two at no cost. Programs are $3. I do the recital DVD, and it is $20 but includes the holiday recital video (with the chapter markers you mentioned), the dress rehearsal, and a picture slideshow. I don\'t know what dance studio choices are in your area, but I hope you can find one that provides a better value for your investment. As with many other services, you have to be aware of the \”hidden costs\” involved when choosing a dance studio. My wife runs a dance studio, and while her monthly rates are only slightly less than those of her competitors, I\’m always amazed at how much the other studios gouge when it comes to costumes, recital tickets, and other fees.
As for the recital video, we don\’t allow parents to videotape the night of the performance as the auditorium is very crowded and raised camcorders would block the view of others. However, we do allow parents to videotape the night of the dress rehearsal. It\’s a clean run-through, so the only difference in a dress rehearsal video is there are fewer folks applauding at the conclusion of each number. Parents can even position themselves in front of the stage during their child\’s performance to make their videos and take pictures.
We do not allow flash photography at the performance as it makes the experience more difficult for students who are nervous about performing. We do allow it at the dress rehearsal since there are fewer nerves that evening and we do want parents to be able to take pictures.
Recital tickets are $2, and each family receives two at no cost. Programs are $3. I do the recital DVD, and it is $20 but includes the holiday recital video (with the chapter markers you mentioned), the dress rehearsal, and a picture slideshow.
I don\’t know what dance studio choices are in your area, but I hope you can find one that provides a better value for your investment.

]]> By: shelleybeans http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-851 shelleybeans Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-851 Our daughters\' dance studio charged $45 for the first video and $15 for each addtional...we couldn\'t believe the price when we read it...absolutely stunned. We would not go down that road because, as you found, our daughters would not be captured on film as we would like and the price was just ridiculous. Fortunately, we were allowed to video tape during the recitals, but I\'m thinking that this option may be taken away from us in the future. Incidentally, we couldn\'t believe the number of people who were obviously going to purchase the video due to the lack of video cameras in the audience...maybe 3 or 4, and this is a good size auditorium. Our daughters\’ dance studio charged $45 for the first video and $15 for each addtional…we couldn\’t believe the price when we read it…absolutely stunned. We would not go down that road because, as you found, our daughters would not be captured on film as we would like and the price was just ridiculous. Fortunately, we were allowed to video tape during the recitals, but I\’m thinking that this option may be taken away from us in the future. Incidentally, we couldn\’t believe the number of people who were obviously going to purchase the video due to the lack of video cameras in the audience…maybe 3 or 4, and this is a good size auditorium.

]]> By: PastorStan http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-852 PastorStan Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-852 My daughter just had her first recital and, like you, I was going to be on the hook for lessons, CONCERT FEE :eek, tickets, costume, pictures, and concert video (no videotaping allowed). I got around the no video and pictures rule by videotaping and getting pictures at the dress rehersal. Now I have an excellent video of my daughter\'s recital without the $25 video charge. (Didn\'t pay for pictures either). :grin My daughter just had her first recital and, like you, I was going to be on the hook for lessons, CONCERT FEE :eek, tickets, costume, pictures, and concert video (no videotaping allowed). I got around the no video and pictures rule by videotaping and getting pictures at the dress rehersal. Now I have an excellent video of my daughter\’s recital without the $25 video charge. (Didn\’t pay for pictures either). :grin

]]> By: KC http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-859 KC Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-859 I\'ll bet you anything that these \"video companies\" promise a cut of the take to the dance studio. I\’ll bet you anything that these \”video companies\” promise a cut of the take to the dance studio.

]]> By: Sue http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-860 Sue Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-860 I am a dance studio owner. Just FYI. A) the video company charges me $3000 YES that\'s $3000 to video tape and copy the DVDs. (don\'t believe me? go through your phone book and call a few companies randomly and ask how much it is)I make ZERO from this video. Since I have a conscience and its my choice to have this professionally done, I allow the parents to video tape the dress rehearsal. No one wants some obnoxious guy jockeying for position to tape his kid while you are trying to enjoy the show....not to mention the geniuses to refuse to stay in their seat but have to go to the foot of the stage to video tape, completely distracting not only their own, but every OTHER 4 year old on the stage.....leaving them staring at Susie\'s Daddy who is waving and trying to get Susie\'s attention instead of remembering their dance. B) I can control who comes in and tapes at dress rehearsal . Anyone can buy a ticket for the show. That means anyone , if you had your way, would be able to video tape your little girl and plaster it all over You Tube. Where have you been? Don\'t you get that its a pedophiles dream to do what you are suggesting? C) If you think dance studio owners are getting rich doing what we are doing, think again. Yes we charge for recital tickets and costumes. Its called trying to pay 12 months of bills on 10 months of income. While your little one is off at summer camp for 2 months, I am sweating it out still trying to pay my rent, utilities, music licensing rights, insurance plus losing money on the pitiful summer courses trying to keep the teachers employed so they won\'t go out and get another job so your kid will have both a teacher and a school to come back to in the fall. Get the whole story before you go shooting off your mouth. :( I am a dance studio owner.
Just FYI.
A) the video company charges me $3000 YES that\’s $3000 to video tape and copy the DVDs. (don\’t believe me? go through your phone book and call a few companies randomly and ask how much it is)I make ZERO from this video.
Since I have a conscience and its my choice to have this professionally done, I allow the parents to video tape the dress rehearsal. No one wants some obnoxious guy jockeying for position to tape his kid while you are trying to enjoy the show….not to mention the geniuses to refuse to stay in their seat but have to go to the foot of the stage to video tape, completely distracting not only their own, but every OTHER 4 year old on the stage…..leaving them staring at Susie\’s Daddy who is waving and trying to get Susie\’s attention instead of remembering their dance.

B) I can control who comes in and tapes at dress rehearsal . Anyone can buy a ticket for the show. That means anyone , if you had your way, would be able to video tape your little girl and plaster it all over You Tube. Where have you been? Don\’t you get that its a pedophiles dream to do what you are suggesting?

C) If you think dance studio owners are getting rich doing what we are doing, think again. Yes we charge for recital tickets and costumes. Its called trying to pay 12 months of bills on 10 months of income. While your little one is off at summer camp for 2 months, I am sweating it out still trying to pay my rent, utilities, music licensing rights, insurance plus losing money on the pitiful summer courses trying to keep the teachers employed so they won\’t go out and get another job so your kid will have both a teacher and a school to come back to in the fall.

Get the whole story before you go shooting off your mouth.

:(

]]> By: Lifelong Dancer http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-861 Lifelong Dancer Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-861 My 4 year old daughter takes ballet lessons. Cool right? And she totally gets into it. - Fantastic! This what you\'re job is - making her happy and finding what she excels in. So at the end of the year we get to go watch her perform with her class. This mind you, is a performance where every class from every age group in the entire dance studio performs. - Oh, so everyone else is piddledinks to your four year old standing there picking her nose, shuffling around. Got it. Screw the older kids with amazing training and their parents wanting to see them, it\'s all about your pants wetter. the professional pictures with her in costume - This is always optional, so take your own, Noodad. This is where you start stretching. or the tickets for that matter (although it is sort of a rip off because they know people aren\'t going to miss the performance no matter how much they charge). - I\'m sorry, how else do you expect them to pay for the auditorium? Get a clue, Noodad! You are not allowed to take pictures or video during the performance. - Okay, so you want EVERYONE to be standing, waving, blowing kisses, yelling for their kids\' attention to take video and photos. That would be utter chaos. You are so ignorant, Noodad. It\'s not all about your and your ankle biter. Her class was pretty big and the dance line stretched across the stage. So the entire performance had the camera panning back and forth. I basically saw my daughter 4 times in a 3 minute period. - That has nothing to do with the videographer. Blame the dance teacher for choreographing a dance this way. Anyone who thinks of the grand scheme of things will not line the kids up for this specific reason. The demands you make for a quality video is all in the price. You\'re going to have to pay more for a video if you want extra time spent. They work hard those four weeks getting out all of those dvds just do you can rip them apart. You want MGM quality, give them time and throw a couple more bucks into it. Yeah, you can buy a special edition doubledisc for less than $30 because they are mass produced. You are an idiot, Noodad! I\'m posting them on YouTube. - So you\'re cool with some nasty guy beatin\' off to your little girl? Good one, Noodad! This is also another reason to not allow everyone and ANYONE to tape your little girl. Grow a brain! If you see a restriction like \"No videocameras\", consider bringing a small camera and shooting yourself anyway. - Refer to the above comment. Noodad, you\'re a jerk and an idiot. I feel sorry for your little girl, espcially after she\'s been plaster on the net for the world to do with as they please. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. My 4 year old daughter takes ballet lessons. Cool right? And she totally gets into it.
- Fantastic! This what you\’re job is – making her happy and finding what she excels in.

So at the end of the year we get to go watch her perform with her class. This mind you, is a performance where every class from every age group in the entire dance studio performs.
- Oh, so everyone else is piddledinks to your four year old standing there picking her nose, shuffling around. Got it. Screw the older kids with amazing training and their parents wanting to see them, it\’s all about your pants wetter.

the professional pictures with her in costume
- This is always optional, so take your own, Noodad. This is where you start stretching.

or the tickets for that matter (although it is sort of a rip off because they know people aren\’t going to miss the performance no matter how much they charge).
- I\’m sorry, how else do you expect them to pay for the auditorium? Get a clue, Noodad!

You are not allowed to take pictures or video during the performance.
- Okay, so you want EVERYONE to be standing, waving, blowing kisses, yelling for their kids\’ attention to take video and photos. That would be utter chaos. You are so ignorant, Noodad. It\’s not all about your and your ankle biter.

Her class was pretty big and the dance line stretched across the stage. So the entire performance had the camera panning back and forth. I basically saw my daughter 4 times in a 3 minute period.
- That has nothing to do with the videographer. Blame the dance teacher for choreographing a dance this way. Anyone who thinks of the grand scheme of things will not line the kids up for this specific reason.

The demands you make for a quality video is all in the price. You\’re going to have to pay more for a video if you want extra time spent. They work hard those four weeks getting out all of those dvds just do you can rip them apart. You want MGM quality, give them time and throw a couple more bucks into it. Yeah, you can buy a special edition doubledisc for less than $30 because they are mass produced. You are an idiot, Noodad!

I\’m posting them on YouTube.
- So you\’re cool with some nasty guy beatin\’ off to your little girl? Good one, Noodad! This is also another reason to not allow everyone and ANYONE to tape your little girl. Grow a brain!

If you see a restriction like \”No videocameras\”, consider bringing a small camera and shooting yourself anyway.
- Refer to the above comment.

Noodad, you\’re a jerk and an idiot. I feel sorry for your little girl, espcially after she\’s been plaster on the net for the world to do with as they please. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

]]> By: Studio owner http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-862 Studio owner Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-862 As stated above, you have no clue how much money it takes to put on a professional looking dance performance or to run a dance studio. I will not even acknowledge your ignorance by giving details. I just want you to know that most of us studio owners, who you think are making millions, do what we do for the love of dance and your children. Most of us do not drive new fancy cars or live in fancy houses. Most of us do not even take much of a paycheck, if any at all. Plus most of us work a full time job besides the full time job of running a dance studio so that we can survive. Get a life. Let us attempt to make a living and make your child happy. Why is it that the general public expects us to do a great job for their kids, but doesn\'t think we should make any money??????? By the way, I make absolutely nothing from the sale of videotapes of my shows. As stated above, you have no clue how much money it takes to put on a professional looking dance performance or to run a dance studio. I will not even acknowledge your ignorance by giving details.
I just want you to know that most of us studio owners, who you think are making millions, do what we do for the love of dance and your children. Most of us do not drive new fancy cars or live in fancy houses. Most of us do not even take much of a paycheck, if any at all. Plus most of us work a full time job besides the full time job of running a dance studio so that we can survive. Get a life. Let us attempt to make a living and make your child happy. Why is it that the general public expects us to do a great job for their kids, but doesn\’t think we should make any money??????? By the way, I make absolutely nothing from the sale of videotapes of my shows.

]]> By: val http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-863 val Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-863 You know I just love parents who think that I am rich and living in a mansion somewhere because they pay me $40 a month in tuition. Little do you know that I make nothing off of the videos I sell, nothing of off the pictures that the photographer takes, and nothing off of the recital ticket sales. Actually I am lucky if I am not in the hole by the thousands after the recital is over. I also just spent over $4,000 on my one and only \"vacation\" for the year, at a dance conference for teachers so that your little girl can benefit as much as possible from her dance classes. I can speak for your daughter\'s teacher and say that I am not doing any of this to make money and I am definetly not doing it for you! I am doing it for your little girl who has an idiot for a father in hopes that she will somehow manage to come out of it a better person. The above poster is right, get a clue before you go mouthing off about things when you really don\'t know what you are talking about. You know I just love parents who think that I am rich and living in a mansion somewhere because they pay me $40 a month in tuition. Little do you know that I make nothing off of the videos I sell, nothing of off the pictures that the photographer takes, and nothing off of the recital ticket sales. Actually I am lucky if I am not in the hole by the thousands after the recital is over.

I also just spent over $4,000 on my one and only \”vacation\” for the year, at a dance conference for teachers so that your little girl can benefit as much as possible from her dance classes.

I can speak for your daughter\’s teacher and say that I am not doing any of this to make money and I am definetly not doing it for you! I am doing it for your little girl who has an idiot for a father in hopes that she will somehow manage to come out of it a better person.

The above poster is right, get a clue before you go mouthing off about things when you really don\’t know what you are talking about.

]]> By: Cari http://www.noodad.com/wp/doodads/the_scam_called_kid_recital_videos/comment-page-1#comment-864 Cari Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-864 I love your ignorance noodad. I pity your kids because you don\'t want to spend a couple bucks on a video tape to see them dance for 3 seconds. This may sound insane to you, but for those of us who have the parents who love us enough to buy these videos and not gripe about...we are still watching them years later! I love your ignorance noodad.

I pity your kids because you don\’t want to spend a couple bucks on a video tape to see them dance for 3 seconds. This may sound insane to you, but for those of us who have the parents who love us enough to buy these videos and not gripe about…we are still watching them years later!

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